'Real' men among us are helpfully pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable manly behaviour among Thais, which makes it easier for those in the other camp, for whom girly behaviour can be hard to avoid.
A male university student, writing at the Pantip board, asks whether 'real' men who use lipstick to make their lips look a lighter shade run the risk of being labelled as gay. 'I use it, and have shown it to my uni friends, who say it looks sexy,' he says.
Sexy? Readers who left comments reckon it is acceptable for a 'real' man to use lipstick ('toner', I suspect), to change the colour of their lips. Thais do not want to look 'black', as they charmlessly put it.
To look white is to look Chinese, healthy and wealthy - even where the lips are concerned, not just the skin.
'Just don't make it too shiny or oily or your friends will tease you about being a girl,' one reader replied.
Postscript: Recently, another Pantip poster started a thread about 'guy liner' (eye liner for men) - a pencil which some guys use to shade in the area around their eyes. It gives them a Goth look.
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