Saturday, 22 August 2009

Savings box scheme ends

The little savings box is no more.

Maiyuu has hidden it in his room, and with it the B2,000 we saved.

I started the savings scheme because I believe we needed money set aside for unexpected bills.

We also decided to put the money towards dental treatment which Maiyuu has has been putting off for years, but which I have persuaded him to start at the end of this year.

I suspect Maiyuu will need many visits to catch up on basic maintenance ... remove rotten teeth, or fill them. We need to have money set aside, or the bills will be hard to pay.

Our humble savings scheme encountered problems from the start, when Maiyuu, worried I would dip into our savings to pay general expenses, removed the cash in the box every two weeks just before pay day, when money is short and I might be tempted to raid it. 

After pay day, when we were flush again, he would replace it, as he knew I would no longer be tempted.

Eventually he bought a lock for the box, which sat in my bedroom.

Yesterday I picked up the thing and gave it a shake. I could not hear the sound of money rattling about inside as I had in the past.

I suspected Maiyuu had helped himself to the money one day, and squirreled it away in his room.

I took the box out to the kitchen where he was working, and asked him where the money had gone.

Angry, he took the box away and hid it in his room. He insists he has not removed the money, but to be honest I no longer care.

‘Savings schemes require commitment on both sides,’ I told him. ‘I want you to get dental treatment because you have put it off for long enough.

‘We are approaching our 10th anniversary; I want to have something to show for it,’ I said.

I can see now that I should never have enlisted Maiyuu's involvement in the savings scheme, as he does not understand its importance.

He’s Thai, so he lives from day to day.

If he wants to save for his teeth now, he shall have to do it alone, as I will no longer offer to contribute.

I shall put aside money for unexpected bills, but I will do it alone. He won’t be told when, or how much.

The BF’s feral behaviour where money is concerned is unfortunate, as it limits his options. 
‘If there is no box, I can no longer save for your teeth,’ I told him.

I was prepared to put aside my own money every month to help pay for his teeth. No more...now, he’ll have to do it himself.

‘Once, in the West, I saved I deposit for a home,’ I told Maiyuu. ‘My girlfriend and I lived frugally for years. It was tough, but it was a joint commitment, which made reaching the goal easier. In the end of it we were able to buy our first home.’

For Maiyuu, the discipline of putting aside money has just become that much harder, as I will no longer be there urging him to do so.

4 comments:

  1. 17 comments:

    Anonymous21 August 2009 at 23:55
    I hope that you do begin to save as much of your own money as you can, in a safe place such as a separate bank account or safe deposit box. Especially now when there is concern about so many jobs lost, the time may come when you will really need saved money.

    Faraway Friend (the new style will not allow me to post under my name unless I include a URL as well, apparently.

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    aaronng8822 August 2009 at 02:07
    wa.. 10 years =) so good. hope u guys can set the benchmark for those who believe a 1 year relationship is 'so long'..

    sad to hear u guys quarreled, but which couple doesn't right? hehehe.

    1 last word: envious!!!

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    Anonymous22 August 2009 at 06:12
    I know you were not happy when i told you not to trust Maiyuu but now you see he has shown his true colours. I feel very sorry for you that this is how he returned your love and trust on him.

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    Bkkdreamer22 August 2009 at 06:20
    He'll be fine. He just had a mild feral moment over the money in the box.

    We have yet to solve this problem, but I could well end up with another box in my room, you never know.

    I am sure he would rather have my help saving than have to do it alone.

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  2. Bkkdreamer22 August 2009 at 06:23
    Aaron:

    It will be 10 years next year, and thank you.

    I think you should start your own fan club offering Aaron T-shirts. I would wear one, even though I have a different first name!

    Faraway Friend: I do intend to carry on saving, probably in the bank. I shall sleep more easily at night knowing we have money tucked away, as oldies like to say.

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    Anonymous22 August 2009 at 06:25
    lt's a shame that Maiyuu gave way to temptation.
    You are angry which is understandable.
    When he gets the dentist bills, you'll help him out because you're too kind not too! ;)

    Going back to the diet, a good tip, when you want to pick and know you shouldn't, try brushing your teeth.
    Wilko

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    Bkkdreamer22 August 2009 at 07:10
    Wilko: Yes, I will help him with his bills. I am looking forweard to taking him (though he probably won't let me do that).

    Thank you for the teeth-brushing tip.

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    Jungle Girl22 August 2009 at 09:26
    Hi Bkk dreamer, its always so hard the money thing. My husband's sister works for us, I support her and her two daughters and pay her a moderate salary. She has no living costs, I take care of everything and really she has more disposable income than I do yet she continues to ask me for a laptop for her daughter.

    I've just paid for the daughter's surgery, and this month her mother has had 5,000 baht as a gift, plus her salary, and about 4,000 baht of tips. With no living costs she could easily have saved up for a laptop over the last six weeks alone if she really put her mind to it but her choice is to fritter her money day to day, and then ask me who she perceives as loaded, for a computer. Which isn't a critical item for a teenager AT ALL.

    I save my money, budget carefully, spend nothing on myself, and end up paying all the emergencies as I'm the only person who saves. Then on top I get asked for luxury items like laptops. I find it really frustrating and a little disheartening.

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    Anonymous22 August 2009 at 19:25
    I know of Thai friends who save their money. So, it is not fair to dismiss your bf's behavior as plainly Thai. What I gather is that he is applying the old saying "what is yours is mine and what is mine is mine."
    You should just save for yourself and let him save from whatever monthly dowry you give him.

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  3. Bkkdreamer22 August 2009 at 19:49
    Jungle Girl: If she was a mere employee, you could simply keep your distance.

    Unfortunately, she is your sister-in-law. Even so, I would try to bargain with her. If the girl wants a laptop, make her work for it. If there's no work to do, she will have to wait.

    I am sure there will be a 'next time' when as the farang you are expected to pay for unforseen events and emergencies which take place in the lives of your Thai inlaws.

    If you didn't make allowance for such events yourself, and instead turned up on *their* doorstop wanting help, the Thais would do what they could, I am sure.

    They probably take the view that as family, you are all in this together. However, that approach to life won't suit many westerners.

    We don't do things as a village or a commune, but as a family unit.

    Anon: I didn't say Thais can't save. I said that as a Thai he tends to live day-to-day.

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    Jungle Girl22 August 2009 at 20:11
    You're right BKK Dreamer, if I was in trouble they would all try to help as best they could. Its another aspect of thai culture that no one seems to make provisions for the future, but when there's a problem everyone does their best to help. I do need to keep that perspective, thanks

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    Anonymous23 August 2009 at 00:19
    I also know of Thais who save- quite assiduously- and yet again you are projecting the individual faults of your roommate onto "Thais" in general.

    I don't know if it is sad or funny that you are trying to convince the bf that he should go along with "your" savings scheme because it will help him- it is pretty clear that he is using all or most of your money to help himself already. It is more clear- and sad- that you are unable even to muster the will to enforce this tiny bit of control over your own money.

    And what does this do to the frequent myth you have posted that the "bf" is the financially responsible member of your household? Isn't the reason that you give him all your money directly because he is supposed to be more responsible than you? Heaven help you both if that is truly the case!

    What is really happening here is that you are unwilling to acknowledge responsibility for the unenviable and genuinely worrying situation in which you choose to remain. When this choice destroys you, or comes close, you will try to say to yourself that it is not your responsibility, because of course it will be the bf's fault that you gave all your money to him!!!

    Very sad.

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  4. Bkkdreamer23 August 2009 at 06:01
    'I also know of Thais who save - quite assiduously- and yet again you are projecting the individual faults of your roommate onto "Thais" in general.'

    Oh, dry up mate. So I am not allowed to draw comparisons between my own BF, who is Thai, and Thais in general?

    I am sure you wouldn't mind if it portrayed all Thais in an unflattering light, including my BF; but at the slightest hint that I am trying to excuse my BF's behaviour by noting that most Thais act the same way, you go on the attack.

    Many Thais *do* live day to day; I don't resile from that statement for a moment. And I can think of no better immediate example than the comment in today's post by Natalie, from the My Jungle Life blog, about her own experience living with Thais.

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    Anonymous23 August 2009 at 06:36
    You will notice that the bulk of my comments are about another, much more important issue, regarding responsibility... who else is living day-to-day, if you are choosing to give control over all your money to someone who lives day-to-day? Not only Thais, it seems.

    And if you had more self-esteem, you would recognise that this is an attempt to give you advice- but unfortunately you are so far gone that any advice that could help you is perceived as an attack.

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    Bkkdreamer23 August 2009 at 09:06
    ...Who else is living day-to-day, if you are choosing to give control over all your money to someone who lives day-to-day? Not only Thais, it seems.'

    If life, like this blog, was plain-sailing, no one would bother with it.

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    Anonymous24 August 2009 at 13:30
    Maybe many Thai are so poor they can't save money no matter how much they want to. Might it be more accurate to say that they are living hand to mouth?

    Faraway Friend

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    Bkkdreamer24 August 2009 at 17:37
    I don't believe so, no. Once again, I refer to Jungle Girl's comments. The Thais in her life enjoy higher disposable income than she does, but still ask for more.

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